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2010 SE CVO Eng Kit

There is something to look for the next

time that the cams are removed.

 

 

 

This is an engine build at our shop that I’m going to use as an example.

This is becoming a frequent issue.

 

If the camshafts are removed from your engine for any reason, have someone or yourself inspect the crankshaft surface where it is supported by the cam plate bearing. If there are grooves worn on the shaft, then the crankshaft has excessive run out. Harley has a run out tolerance spec. of up to .015”.  Most HD technicians will go by these specifications. It may be hard to convinced them that the factory tolerance is unacceptable. If they argue with you, ask them if it’s normal for the other components to be worn also and what caused them to wear. Then ask what happens to the metal from the wear of these components and where does it go.

 

Just think about it, all of this metal travels through the oil system and some of it has to eventually deposit itself on the roller bearings. Keep this in mind also, that the rollers and the seats of the roller bearings are hardened steel. The debris will be run over like a steamroller.  It has to affect the life of the bearing.

 

Another “old school” way of thinking, debates where the measurement should be taken to check run out. Service manuals advise to take the measurement at the shaft just outside the crank bearing. Here again, their theory is that the run out doesn’t matter at the end of the crankshaft. If it doesn’t matter, their shouldn’t be important components being worn that is connected to end of the crankshaft.

 

Remember that the crankshaft runs through the oil pump rotors (drives the oil pump) then rides on a bushing (bearing) in the cam plate. The oil pump is securely bolted to the cam plate and the cam plate is bolted to the engine case while the rotors are secured to the crankshaft.

 

So you have a crankshaft moving up, down or sideways, (also the oil pump rotors doing the same) while trying to be secured by the cam plate bushing which is trying to keep the crankshaft aligned and not moving. The oil pump that is securely bolted to the cam plate is driven by the moving crankshaft. Run out cannot be acceptable at the end of the crank!  Everything is trying to keep the crank running true so, why would it be acceptable to let the crank have untrue movement? 

 

Listed are some pictures of what to look for and what type of damage

occurs when the crankshaft has this problem. This crankshaft only has

.006” run out but, look at what components are also worn. I’ve seen a

lot worse than .006” run out on other cranks. The company that trued this customer's new 103" crank claims that the crank run out should be .001” or less after their true and weld service.

 

 

    

Grooves on the crankshaft

 

Grooves in the cam plate bushing

 

Grooves on the oil pump rotors (gears)

 

Grooves on the cam plate where the oil pump is installed 

 

There are several companies that can repair this problem with crankshafts by truing and welding the crank. The customer of this engine has purchase a new 103 ci. Crank and has sent it out to be trued and welded so that this will not happen again.